The Halloween franchise that originated all the way back in 1978 has gone through many changes and makeovers over the years, but author Andrew Grevas has meticulously gone through each and every incarnation to bring possibly the most detailed description of the series to date.
Grevas employs in-depth interviews with actors, directors, writers (and just about anyone else willing) from the ’78 original, all the way up to 2022’s Halloween Ends, that includes the likes of Dean Cundey, Ellie Cornell, Tom Atkins, Dee Wallace, and Dwight Little (just to name a few).
At first the Q&A-style of the many interviews here does seem to be a bit tedious, but the information contained within each one of them is usually enough to sustain ones attention span throughout the duration. Some of the more interesting topics discussed within can also be attributed to the many “what if” scenarios of the franchise as well.
Overall though, its a love letter from Grevas to one of horror’s most revered franchises, which longtime fans should without a doubt be able to both recognize, and respect.
Since 2021, Rewind It Magazine have made it to Welcome to Rockville four out of five recent years since the massive annual music festival moved to Daytona Beach from Jacksonville, FL. But unlike previous years, there was an impossible-to-ignore black cloud looming over the proceedings this year, as less than three short months prior I had found myself recovering from surgery in the hospital after a nasty bout of Oyesteomylitis (a potentially deadly bone infection, and in my case chronic) had rippled its way through my ankle once more after decades of remission.
There was much doubt then, and even more doubt the day of when the moment had finally arrived (my wife and Rewind It photographer/partner-in-crime Brooke had actually won tickets to the event from local radio station WMMO as far back as December). But I was determined, and did not want to let my still-teenaged son Jacob (who is perpetually playing catch up with his old man when it comes to seeing bands) down.
Thursday, May 15 (Day 1):
We strolled in (in my case literally – I was on a rolling walker for this one) to the Daytona International Speedway that first day on Thursday, May 15, with a feeling of triumph, having finally made it across the finish line (normally by this time of year we’ve fit in a handful of shows by now). But after all that uncertainty leading up, there lied the first band of 2025 either us had seen on stage right before our eyes – Blue October (okay so we might have actually caught a glimpse of The Acacia Strain along the way too, but still).
Now, I can’t tell you I’ve ever been much of a Blue October fan over the years at all. But in that moment, hearing tracks like “Hate Me” and “I Hope You’re Happy” live meant the world to me just then, though it was about to get much better very quickly.
Reunited 2000’s act Crossfade were up next after being introduced by I believe a Sirius XM radio host whose name escapes me (?), and even a NASCAR driver (and if memory serves me correctly, that would be Daniel Sauerz). For this one we stayed for the entire set, which included “Starless,” “So Far Away,” “Lay Me Down,” “Dead Memories,” “The Deep End,” “Colors,” “Already Gone,” “Death Trend Setta,” and their 2004 hit, “Cold.”
Crossfade performing on the first day of Welcome to Rockville in Daytona Beach, FL on 5/15/25 (Photo by Jesse Striewski).
Next up were ’80s thrash masters Exodus, who we nearly missed by the time we made the trek over to the Inferno stage to see them. Although I caught the band once before back in 2014, I was curious to see the return of former vocalist Rob Dukes this time around, even if it was only for a handful of songs (“Toxic Waltz” and “Strike of the Beast”), one of which also included Municipal Waste front man Tony Foresta.
A few minutes worth of Theory of a Deadman’s set in the interim reminded me of just how boring they really are live (I had actually seen them along time ago too at another festival around 2012-ish, and was not impressed then, either), though Orlando natives Trivium (whose original singer/bassist Brad Lewter I had actually gone to elementary school with in Weikva) helped kick things up a notch.
“The End of Everything,” “Rain,” “Pull Harder on the Strings of Your Martyr,” and “Like Light to the Flies” were all fun enough to hear again and/or for the first time (it’s been since 2008 since I last saw them), but in order to catch GWAR for the first time in nearly two decades (seen them several times between 1999-2006) and with Michael Bishop now in place of the late Dave Brockie (R.I.P.) for the first time was too intriguing as well.
Hearing songs like “Slap U Around,” “Gor-Gor,” and “Sick of You” live again may have brought back some nostalgic memories no doubt, but the overall juvenile appreciation has long since past since those Beavis and Butt-Head days so long ago, and I think I’ll leave my memories of the band in the past where they ultimately belong for me.
The Pretty Reckless came into late in the game, replacing 3 Doors Down on the bill after frontman Brad Arnold’s recent cancer diagnosis (wishing him all of the best). I’ve checked out the band before, and other than the singer Taylor Momsen’s previous acting credits (which included 2000’s How the Grinch Stole Christmas alongside Jim Carey), I really hadn’t found much interest in them. Live was a different story though, as Momsen swayed her way through tracks like “Witches Burn,” “Makes Me Wanna Die,” “Going to Hell,” “Heaven Knows,” and “Take Me Down.”
From then on, it was all about the ladies for some time after, with Lzzy Hale (fresh off a brief stint fronting Skid Row) and Halestorm belting out some of their well-known numbers like “Familiar Taste of Poison” and “Freak Like Me,” before we were able to catch Arch Enemy completely annihilating another stage nearby (and with front woman Alissa White-Gluz looking damn good in the process).
I could hear Three Days Grace from a distance and even seen them on some of the giant screens throughout while we waited for Asking Alexandria to play on another stage. Having already seen Asking Alexandria open for All That Remains way back in 2010, I was expecting more of the same insanity, though some of that seemed to be replaced now by a more mainstream direction rather than metalcore (could have something to do with the absence of original guitarist Ben Bruce). All in all songs like “Alone in a Room” and “The Final Episode (Let’s Change the Channel)” still held up live.
Rapper/Actor Ice-T and Body Count have at the very least held a vague interest for me ever since appearing on the Judgement Night soundtrack alongside Slayer with the punk/thrash inspired “Disorder” all the way back in 1993. While the band did rip through the aforementioned track with style (as well as a cover of Slayer’s “Raining Blood,” among other things), I found myself losing interest quickly after being preached to (one of the biggest turn-offs for me from musicians these days).
And finally, if you’ve seen Rob Zombie once, you’ve seen him enough. I can’t even remember exactly how many times its been, but I do know not much has changed since that first time I saw him back in 2006. He’ll usually open with something like “Demon Speeding” (which he did), throw in some hits like “Feel So Numb” and “More Human Than Human” (which he also did), and end it with the one-two punch of “Thunder Kiss ’65” and “Dragula” (yep, again). The only noticeable difference this time was the inclusion of “Creature of the Wheel” from 1995’s Astro-Creep: 2000 album, though I could think of at least half a dozen better songs from that album (either “Electric Head” track or “Blur the Technicolor” would’ve done nicely instead).
By the time Zombie was done, so were we, despite that evening’s headliner Shinedown still yet to perform (how they landed the “headliner” spot to begin with, I’ll never understand), though we could clearly hear them starting on our way out of the venue.
Friday, May 16 (Day 2):
By the time we got to day number two, we getting into more of a routine (mainly finding spots to stay out of the heat/sun), though were able to arrive just a tad earlier than the day prior (and run into long time friend of the fam and latest Rewind It contributor, Josh Kelly).
It was no doubt all about the ’90s this day, with the first band we caught of the day being Lit. Before their set, a video montage reminding fans of their MTV Spring Break played over the screens before the band started with “Kicked Off the Plane.” Admittedly I did not know much of their songs until they reached the pseudo-ballad “Miserable,” and by then it was time to catch fellow ’90s act Everclear.
Everclear are one of those bands I’ve always held a small interest for since their heyday, a large part perhaps having to do with being on the soundtracks to such films I loved like Detroit Rock City (1999) and Rock Star (2001). They wasted no time with their set, instantly giving fans exactly what they came for with the anthemtic “So Much For the Afterglow” before tearing through “Everything to Everyone,” “Heroin Girl,” “Father of Mine,” “I Will Buy You a New Life,” “Wonderful,” and finally, the 1995 classic, “Santa Monica.”
Another reunited early 2000’s metalcore act, It Dies Today, who I had once caught what now feels like a lifetime ago at the 2007 Vans Warped Tour, were the next on the agenda. Hearing the likes of “Severed Ties Yield Severed Heads,” “Sacred Heart (Sacre Couer),” and “A Threnody of Modern Romance” was a welcomed blast from the past for sure.
And speaking of blasts from the past, Bowling For Soup were one of the earliest groups I can remember my kid ever liking, having performed the theme song to the animated show Phineasand Ferb (which I probably heard more times than I’d like to admit thanks to it). While I’m almost positive I could hear the band playing said theme in the distance prior to arriving, I can confirm “Punk Rock 101,” “Girl All the Bad Guys Want,” and “1985” were all performed towards the end of their set.
Post-grunge rockers Candlebox took it back to the ’90s, with songs like “Don’t You,” “Change,” “Elegante,” “Arrow,” and “Cover Me”bringing yet more memories from those teen years.
Having just seen Bush somewhat recently in late 2023, I wasn’t too worried about catching them again, and by then it was time for some much-needed rest out of the sun. I was still close enough to the stage to hear such classics and newer tracks alike, such as “Everything Zen,” “Machinehead,” “Flowers on a Grave,” “The Chemicals Between Us,” “60 Ways to Forget People,” “Swallowed,” “More Than Machines,” “Glycerine,” and “Comedown.”
When it came time for Sublime, there was a vague interest there, even though I never really got too hooked on the band’s music, even at their peak. But I was surprised to see what a show man the late Bradley Nowell’s son Jakob was in his place, as the band made their way through “April 29, 1992 (Miami),” “The Ballad of Johnny Butt,” “Wrong Way,” “Date Rape,” “Doin’ Time,” “STP,” “Garden Grove,” “Badfish,” “Burritos,” “Ensenda,” “What I Got,” “Same in the End,” and “Santeria.”
Ukrainian metal act Jinjer were next up on the agenda, and I’ve got to say, of all the female-fronted bands we were able to witness at Rockville, their frontwoman (Tatiana Shmayluk) was by far one of the most unique – not to mention one of the sexiest – of them all. The group blasted through numbers like “Retrospection,” “Green Serpent,” and “Someone’s Daughter” (among others) with ease.
Ironically, the last time I saw Killswitch Engage, it was on that very same Vans Warped Tour with It Dies Today back in 2007. At that time Howard Jones was still handling lead vocal duties (quite admirably too I might add), but I was looking forward to seeing the band with original lead singer Jesse Leach back at the helm this time though.
And apparently I was not the only one; it seemed like nearly everyone inside of the Speedway came from far and wide to pack the surrounding areas of that stage to hear the band do “Rose of Sharyn,” “In Due Time,” “This Fire,” “Broken Glass,” “Hate by Design,” “Forever Aligned,” “The Signal Fire,” “I Believe,” “My Curse,” “The End of Heartache” (in which the band briefly stopped midway due to an injured fan), “My Last Serenade,” and their cover of Dio’s “Holy Diver.”
Another band I caught many years earlier at a Warped Tour (I believe 2002) though wouldn’t really call myself a “fan” of, Good Charlotte, were next up. I was surprised by how much energy the band brought even after having just watched Killswitch, with tracks like “The Anthem,” “Girls & Boys,” “Keep Your Hands Off My Girl,” “Predictable,” “Hold On,” “Wondering,” “Life Changes,” and “The Young and the Hopeless” all leading the charge.
But it was what came next that created one of the most truly unique moments at Rockville this year; Wheatus singer Brendan B. Brown suddenly emerged to duet with G.C. frontman Joel Madden on the 2000 hit “Teenage Dirtbag.” It was just one of those small yet special and rare moments that only seems to happen once in a blue moon, and there was no way the band could top it afterwards, even with a few more tracks in the form of “Little Things,” “The River,” “Dance Floor Anthem,” “I Just Wanna Live,” and “Lifestyles of the Rich & the Famous” still up their sleeves.
And now we get to…Green Day. I remember when the band first started becoming a household name after the release of their third album, Dookie, in 1994. One of my trendy older sister’s, trying to describe the band to someone and sound cool in the process, labeled them as a “Jesse band” (and that’s a direct quote). Having already been into more “authentic” punk bands at the time such as the Misfits and the Ramones, I took it as somewhat of an insult rather than a compliment, and my opinion of the band has only gotten worse with each subsequent release from them since.
Honestly, their concert was one of the most pointless and low quality I can recall in recent memory. They started things off with Queen’s “Bohemian Rhapsody” (a much better song from far more talented musicians) blaring on the house speakers before some guy in a bunny suit hoped around moronically to the Ramones’ “Blitzkrieg Bop” for no apparent reason that I could see.
It didn’t get any better once they emerged with their commie rhetoritc that is “American Idiot,” with Billie Joe Armstrong throwing in predictable jabs towards a certain faction of Americans (so edgy) in his annoying voice as always. I didn’t get the appeal as more tracks like “Holiday” and “Know Your Enemy” (at which point the band did at least let a young fan onstage to have the time of her life) and “Boulevard of Broken Dreams” continued to ring out.
Green Day performs on night number two of Welcome to Rockville in Daytona Beach, FL on Friday, 5/16/25 (Photo by Josh Kelly).
“One Eyed Bastard” was a bore, and by the time they reached a couple of tracks from said Dookie album (“Longview” and “Welcome to Paradise”) we had had enough for the night and started heading for the door, and with zero regrets about it, either.
Saturday, May 17 (Day 3):
By day number three I was already spent, so we not only took our time arriving, but I had already pre-decided I was not going to worry about most of the earlier bands (I had already seen most of them in some shape or form already anyhow, so it was not much of a loss really).
The first act we caught of the day was Christian rockers P.O.D., who were just wrapping things up with their early-2000’s mega hits “Youth of a Nation” and “Alive.” After which, there was an oh-so-brief glimpse of Taking Back Sunday before it was time for me to retreat yet again until Municipal Waste hit the stage.
Late last year I had actually briefly met M.W. frontman Tony Foresta at a Fear show (and if you recall earlier in this article, he had actually guested on stage with Exodus just two days prior), but I had still yet to see Tony and co. tear things up with their maniciacl crossover mix.
“Slime and Punishment” was appropriately the track the band was already mid-song playing by the time we scooted up to the party. “The Thrashin’ of the Christ,” “Poison the Preacher,” “You’re Cut Off,” “High Speed Steel,” “Grave Dive,” “Wave of Death,” “Demoralizer,” and “Born to Party” (complete with a guy in a hazmat suit) all found their way into their set list.
Occasional Rewind It contributor Seth Johnson and his wife Erin had met up with us by this point, and just in time for Florida death metal legends Obituary. My introduction to the genre actually came via two cassette tapes (that’s right) found at a pawn shop “back in the day;” Cannibal Corpse’s Eaten Back to Life, and Obituary’s Slowly We Rot. So it was a thrill to finally cross the band off the list as well (C.C. I had actually seen before way back in 2006). The band ripped through their set that consisted of “Snortin’ Whisky,” “Redneck Stomp,” “A Lesson in Vengeance,” “Body Bag,” “The Wrong Time,” and “Slowly We Rot.”
I wasn’t quite sure what to make of Bilmuri (lead by former Attack Attack! frontman Johnny Franck) while waiting for Acid Bath to play, but their saxophone player Gabi Rose added a slight ’80s touch to the proceedings (not to mention some very…interesting attire) on tracks like “Emptyhanded” and “The End” (I’m not going to even attempt to try to spell most of their long-winded songs).
Acid Bath are one of those sludge metal bands that hold just enough appeal to hold my interest (similar to Down), and their reuniting for the first time since the late ’90s was definitely one of the most-talked about moments of Rockville this year. “The Beautiful Downgrade,” “Tranquilized,” “Bleed Me An Ocean,” “Venus Blue,” “Dead Girl,” “Pagan Love Song,” and “Dr. Seuss is Dead” were all worth the the wait to hear live.
Pierce The Veil may be one of those newer groups more up my son’s alley, but I’ll admit I actually did enjoy what we watched of their set. Tracks like “I’m Low on Gas and You Need a Jacket,” “Circles,” “Karma Police” (Radiohead cover), “May These Noises Startle You in Your Sleep Tonight,” “Hell Above,” “Caraphernelia,” “Emergency Contact,” “Hold on to May,” and “King For a Day” (with Sleeping with Sirens singer Kellin Quinn) were all admirable to say the least.
And lastly, the latest incarnation of Linkin Park with Dead Sara vocalist Emily Armstrong in place of the late Chester Bennington closed out the night. As far as nu metal goes, I’d rather listen to them over the likes of say, well, Mudvayne (stay tuned), and I actually liked some of the earlier Michael Bay Transformers films that they provided songs for, so one of the stipulations I had beforehand was to hear them do at least one of those songs live.
After some brief intros, the band launched into some familiar numbers such as “Somewhere I Belong,” “Lying From You,” “Crawling,” “Two Faced,” and my stopping point, “New Divide” (from 2009’s Revenge of the Fallen). I won’t sit here and tell you Armstrong is flawless in Benniington’s place, but she seems to be trying her best at the shoes she’s been given to fill.
Linkin Park’s Emily Armstrong serenading the crowd at Welcome to Rockville in Daytona Beach, FL on Saturday, May 17 (Photo by Josh Kelly).
Sunday, May 18 (Day 4):
By day number four on Sunday, I was definitely ready for it all to be over, while at the same time grateful to finally have my beloved wife and number one photographer Brooke by my side for it. It was especially notable for us to finally see Marilyn Manson together, having both attended the same 2008 show of his together without even knowing it (prior to our eventual dating/marriage).
As we walked in for the day, we caught glimpses of Gatecreeper, Attack Attack! and Fit For An Autopsy, but it wasn’t until Orlando’s own Sevendust that we really paid solid attention to a group, with tracks like “Pieces,” “Denial,” “Praise,” “Black,” “Enemy,” and “Face to Face” exploding across the Speedway.
Sevendust performing at Welcome to Rockville in Daytona Beach, FL on Sunday, May 18 (Photo by Brooke Striewski).
Blessthefall is one band I photographed live in Orlando for a local band back in 2010 (along with Chiodos, who were also on the bill today), and I was looking forward to seeing how the band has matured since then. And they sounded spot on on tracks like “Wake the Dead,” “Cutthroat,” “Hollow Bodies,” “2.0,” “What’s Left of Me,” “You Wear a Crown But You’re No King,” and “Hey Baby, Here’s That Song You Wanted.”
Memphis May Fire and The Black Dahlia Murder were a couple of more interim acts before Hawthorne Heights, who surprisingly I don’t recall seeing before now. And hearing songs like “Saying Sorry,” “Hard to Believe,” and “Niki FM” were actually all quite effective live.
While waiting for Marilyn Manson to take stage, we were given no choice but to endure the end of Mudvayne’s set, who were in the process of ending the same set they had the last two times we saw them at Rockville, with tracks like “Not Falling” and “Happy?”
Marilyn Manson have definitely changed a lot since that last time Brooke and I had seen them all the way back in 2008, and no doubt have endured quite a bit as well (Manson briefly addressed this, calling those who tried to cancel him “vial”). But within seconds of hitting stage, I don’t think there was a single person in attendance doubting his ability to still put on an epic rock show (Manson’s young new guitarist Reba Meyers of Code Orange added to the energy, and was extremely easy on the eyes at that).
The band plowed through the likes of “Nod If You Understand,” “Disposable Teens,” “Get Your Gunn,” “Tourniquet,” “Sacrilegious,” “This Is the New Shit,” “mOBSCENE,” “Long Hard Road out of Hell,” “The Dope Show,” “As Sick as the Secrets Within,” “Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This),” and finally, “The Beautiful People.”
Reba Meyers performs on stage with Marilyn Manson at Welcome to Rockville in Daytona Beach, FL on Sunday, May 18 (Photo by Jesse Striewski).
The night could’ve ended right then and there and I would’ve been perfectly fine with it, but there were still some acts left, including Bad Omens. I had never really listened to them before, and although their music did not sound bad per se, it was definitely puzzling why they were actually in a headlining spot.
And last but not least, Korn finally took stage to close out Welcome to Rockville. Now, I haven’t actually owned a Korn album since their self-titled debut was given to me by a friends older sister, on cassette (that’s right). So I can’t say they’ve been my favorite band out there (again, the whole nu metal scene is more up my kid’s alley than it is mine).
But I’ll admit, the band showed no mercy as they tore through numbers like “Blind,” “Twist,” “Falling Away From Me,” and “Got the Life.” By the time they reached “Clown” though, we were completely spent, and decided to just listen what we could on the way out (“Did My Time” and “Shoots and Ladders” included), effectively putting an end to the 2025 Welcome to Rockville festival for good.
Many moons ago, long before Facebook had taken over as the social media giants they would soon become, there was this little site people connected on called Myspace. At the time, I was new to navigating it, and just starting to feel my way around the world of journalism. Looking to score my first interview piece for the magazine I was writing for at the same time, one of the first celebrities I ever followed and reached out to was one I had always been a fan of growing up; Courtney Gains of The‘Burbs and Children of the Corn fame.
I cannot recall if I ever did hear back regarding my interview inquiry back then or not, but for whatever reason, the moment was simply not meant to be. Fast forward to 2023, where after a solid fifteen years of writing about entertainment for various media outlets has lead to a number of interview opportunities actually presenting themselves to my desktop on nearly a daily basis. One of those recently being none other than Gains, who admittedly I did not realize until fairly recently was also an accomplished musician with a new studio release on the way at the time (in addition to still being a talented actor).
So I jumped at the chance to finally speak with Gains one-on-one, and after finally settling on a mutual day and time, sat down for a phone conversation with him. With a body of work in film that stretches all the way back to the early ’80s, I decided to start off with his music endeavors first, and asked just how long he had been playing for, and what instrument he originally started off with. He told me; “I started taking (guitar) lessons when I was thirteen years old. I’ve been in bands in LA for a number of years, probably from about the time I was eighteen. So it’s always been my side hustle/hobby; it wasn’t how I was making a living (back then), but I was always pursuing it. But this time around I’m really doing my own project as opposed to being in ‘a band.’ The last project that I had before this current one was a band called Ripple Street, and the last album we put out was just a straight break-up record. I played guitar and sang with them, but in this band I really wanted a better guitar player, so I actually play bass and sing, which has been an interesting process for me.”
I decided to dive right into his new EP, Safe Haven, which he had just started officially promoting the week prior to our conversation. Regarding it he informed me; “It’s a six-song EP, all rock ‘n roll and blues, and all things I want to talk about that I think are a little whacked out. For example, I have a song called “The Healer” that’s the point of view of an egotistical plastic surgeon (Laughs). Then there’s songs like “Bills in Space” about the billionaire space race, stuff like that.”
He continued his point regarding the latter song; “I think it’s funny some of the ‘greater minds’ spend all this money so they can go out into space…how about solve some of the problems right here first? (Laughs). What I’ve learned though is you just never know the impact something’s going to have on someone. By talking about/promoting this and getting it out there, there might be at least one person that it effects. If you just put yourself out there, you just never know the impact it’s going to make.”
I wanted to know if he had a personal favorite track from the record, to which he said; “Someone else recently asked me a similar question, and I had to go with “Good Times;” I’ve been playing that song for over twenty years. Three of the songs on the record are songs I’ve had around for awhile, and they all appeared in a movie called Benny Bliss and the Disciples of Greatness from 2009 that I produced and starred in that had an anti-technology message, so there’s definitely a theme there of things that I’m not too keen on (Laughs). But that song has been around forever and is the type of song that just gets people up on their feet, so it’s good to finally get that one out there.”
Gains informed me; “We’ve been really gigging for the last eight or nine months, and it’s all been gearing up for hitting the road next year to really promote the record, that’s what this has all been really heading towards. It also ties in with Children of the Corn’s 40th anniversary next year, so it will definitely be a big convention year for me in 2024. I’ve been doing horror conventions for fifteen years or so now, and it’s been a good run. But I’m getting kind of tired of the traveling and jumping on plans and all that, so I think I’m going to call it and go out on a big note.”
Gains continued; “But it’s good timing-wise, because I can also promote the music during this same run. We’re even talking about doing some 35mm print screenings of the film with some Q&A’s and the band playing.” And as far as if this might make it to Florida, he told me; “We’re going to start coordinating all that soon. I don’t know for sure if there’s any art houses or places in Florida that want to screen it yet, but if they do, we’ll show up!”
As far as landing the role of Malachai in Children… all those years ago, Gains enlightened me of the process; “I had to audition, which I still often do. There was this casting director named Linda Francis who had seen me in a showcase, which were just starting to happen in LA. They would invite agents and casting directors down and you’d present a scene, and if they liked you they might take your picture or whatever. And she took a liking to me and was really the first person to become a ‘fan.’ She cast me in this one film that ended up not happening, but she was the one that kept pushing for me, and really made a big difference in my life.”
He continued further; “But the famous story goes that in the first reading for Children…, I pulled a fake knife on the reader, who didn’t know that it was fake and about wet himself! He’s since gone on to be a huge casting director, and to this day will use that moment as an example at his lectures and tell people to never do that…which I agree, but at the time I was just young and hungry, although that’s a good way to never get called back again (Laughs)! Then the second audition was with John Franklin who played Issac, and I was grabbing/lifting him up by his lapels, and he said I was by far the scariest one in the room, and the rest is history! That was both his and mine’s first film, and we’re still tight and do conventions together to this day.”
I was also curious if Gains had been a Stephen King fan prior to appearing in a film based off of the writer’s work. He told me; “I didn’t really realize how big he was (or was going to be) at the time, but thank God for that, we’ve been riding Stephen King’s coat tails for almost forty years now (Laughs).” And as far as the numerous entries in the franchise that have come since? Gains told me; I saw the sixth one which John (Franklin) returned for, and I did see the Sy Fy reboot that the producer of the original one, Don Borchers, also returned for – and that was alright. I was supposed to actually do a cameo for that, but I wasn’t able to do it because I was actually at a con in Florida at the time, and the weather didn’t permit, so it didn’t end up happening.”
I asked about his follow up to Children…, the 1984 sex comedy Hardbodies, and what that was like filming, and Gains joked; “It was terrible! I got to hang out on the beach all day with hot girls, so it was just absolutely brutal! (Laughs). But I got that part because I would go to this class that the director (Mark Griffiths) would have on Sunday nights, and he took a real liking to me. So when he got greenlit to do that film, he more or less tailored made that role for me, which was basically mine to not blow.”
As far as that sweet checkered hat he wore in the film and hanging out with the all-female rock group Vixen at the time, he informed me; “I put that whole outfit together, and remember actually getting in a fight with the wardrobe lady (Laughs). She was living closer to the south beach areas and what was going on with the kids down there, but I was going for more of a skateboarder vibe. I’d say a good seventy percent of that wardrobe was all stuff of mine, and I had that checkered hat for a number of years afterwards, but I’m not sure whatever happened to it. I do remember the first day driving in Malibu like that though and people were just laughing. But hey, it was already getting a reaction, so I must’ve been on to something! (Laughs).”
And when it came to seeing a pre-famous Vixen on the set; “I was walking from a trailer down this alleyway in Venice Beach, and I heard them as they were actually in the garage rehearsing (just like the scene they appear in the movie), and I thought they’re pretty cool! Then I remember a few years later seeing their poster up somewhere and being blown away by how huge they had become. I thought they were just a band they had put together for the movie (Laughs).”
The following year Gains appeared in the film that would kick off one of the biggest trilogies of all time, 1985’s Back to the Future. Although his role was brief, I asked how it felt to be a part of such a blockbuster series. He explained; “To be associated with that franchise in anyway is a pretty mind-blowing, amazing thing. My character had already been dropped one time, and if you’re doing a movie they can only drop you one time, and if they bring you back they can’t drop you again. So they had already dropped me once in the middle of all the chaos of re-shooting everything after dropping Eric Stoltz in the lead role and replacing him with Michael J. Fox. Still to this day, one of the top residual checks I get is from Back to the Future, so it’s been a financial blessing in my life.”
Ironically Gains would go on to co-star with Stoltz after all in the somewhat forgotten classic, 1990’s Memphis Belle. I asked his thoughts on the film today; “The timing was bad because it came out right when the first Iraqi war broke out, and no one wanted to go see a war movie at the time. But still a very good film with some top-notch people involved with it.”
Of course one cannot forget his role as the nerdy best friend to Patrick Dempsey in 1987’s Can’tBuy Me Love. Regarding the film he stated; “Well, it’s definitely had an impact. It was a just the second film for this little indie company called Apollo Pictures which I had already done another movie for. It was originally this low budget film called Boy Meets Girl, and then Disney picked it up with their new division called Touchstone Pictures, and they dumped some more money into it to do some re-shoots and take all of the bad jokes out of it (Laughs). And then they bought the rights to (The Beatles song) “Can’t Buy Me Love” – which was not cheap – and then they made that the title, which really took it to the next level. But that movie was like the the number three movie that summer, and really launched Patrick Dempsey’s career.”
But perhaps the most memorable role of Gains’ career to this day (aside from Malachai) will always be Hans Klopek, creepy neighbor to Tom Hanks in 1989’s The ‘Burbs. Gains stated; “That’s the one that I think is really the most underrated. While we were shooting it, Big had just come out, which was just a huge hit for Tom Hanks. Comparatively they were disappointed, but thanks to home video and all that it really kept getting out there, and it wasn’t until I started doing conventions years later that I realized that there was a whole like dedicated, underground, ‘Burbs community out there (Laughs). There’s people that tell me stories that this was the movie they used to watch with their parents, and now watch with their own kids. It seems to be the movie the whole family agrees on, and I even had a guy tell me it’s the movie his mom watches when she gets depressed! You can never underestimate the impact that a movie can have on people. It’s pretty cool.”
He continued his thoughts on the film; “I had a good time working on it, though. Joe Dante was a nice guy to work for, and Tom Hanks was the most down-to-Earth A-lister you’re ever going to meet. I was (and still am) a huge Bruce Dern fan, so for him to recognize my work at all meant the world to me (and still does). And ironically there was a writer’s strike going on at the time (which we have one going on right now), and it was just us and Fletch Lives shooting on the entire Universal lot, and we got those movies in right before the strike.”
Bruce Dern puts Gains in a chokehold in a still shot from The ‘Burbs (1989).
He then briefly stayed on the topic of the current writer’s strike; “I’ve been seeing the writing on the wall for this coming for a long time now. I was very aware that the residual checks had been becoming less and less and the industry was getting worse for awhile. That’s why I moved out to the southeast, it’s more live-able and also opened me up to the whole east market including, New York. Last year I did a movie in New Jersey called The Wrath of Becky, and that was a great role, and I’m pretty happy with it.”
With Halloween just around the corner, I also wanted to know Gains’ thoughts on his cameo appearance in Rob Zombie’s 2007 version of Halloween. He stated; “It’s pretty crazy how many times they’ve re-booted the movies at this point! But I think that Rob knows his horror, and does try to make a point to bring people from the genre into his films, so I was happy to be a part of that. I had a friend of mine who had worked with Rob before that gave me a really great piece of advice, which was to be prepared that Rob might just completely go off script if he doesn’t like the way something is going. And that turned out to be the greatest advice, because what Rob’s trying to find is the truth of a scene, and I really appreciate that. A lot of times directors get so caught up in the process of moving things along, they don’t stay in the process and try to make something good out of it.”
He went into greater detail; “So what was supposed to be one day’s worth of work turned into another because we kept working it and adding stuff to it. It was such a nasty, disturbing scene though that nobody wanted to hang around the monitor to watch it, and I’ve never seen that before. But I like the way Rob works, and he has a great sense of the vibe and design of a scene. He knows what he likes and what his audience likes, and has a very great sense of all that.
This very weekend (which happens to kick off with a Friday the 13th!) is primed to be a busy one for Gains, as he informed me; “There’s a haunted house out in the woods in North Carolina called the Haunted Pyramids, and my band will be playing two nights there on the 14th and 15th. So we’ll be playing for a bunch of horror fans out there. All the rest of the bands are going to be metal except ours, but we’re going to go out there and rock their asses off anyway! (Laughs).”
And with Halloween just around the corner, the last thing I wanted to know was whether or not Gains had any sort of personal annual traditions for the holiday at all (it should be noted, in addition to all of the films previously mentioned, Gains has also appeared in the likes of more recent seasonal films such as 2015’s The Funhouse Massacre and 2019’s Candy Corn). He told me; “I’m the worst (laughs), because like, what do I do for a living? I get dressed up in costumes! And I’m usually doing conventions around this time, so Halloween is usually my day off! (Laughs).”
So, Halloween finally ends, huh? For me, it was over twenty years ago when Michael Myers offed Laurie Strode (Jamie Lee Curtis) in 2002’s Resurrection, but that’s just me. Last year’s atrocious Halloween Kills had to be my least favorite of all the films in the franchise (next to only the Rob Zombie entries), but what can really be said about this latest installment that hasn’t already been said, and without giving away too much?
On the surface, it could just be considered an experiment gone terribly, terribly wrong. But there’s much to unpack here. And in the five days since its release, audiences have almost universally panned the film for the direction it takes. It starts out a basic origin story, highlighting the torment and eventual descent into madness of the bullied Corey Cunnigham (Rohan Campbell). The problem that exists – other than the fact that this takes away from the Michael vs. Laurie showdown that everyone was hoping for – is who is this character, and why in the hell should we even care about him?
The ensuing love story aspect between Cunnigham and Laurie’s adorable granddaughter Allyson (Andi Matichak) actually works in its own weird way, but feels better suited for another film entirely. But that aside, the rest of what is left is a heaping pile of metaphorical mess, clumped together by Director David Gordon Green’s would-be unique vision. Even the “kills” feel forced and largely unnecessary, if one can actually believe that.
Speaking of unnecessary, this entire newer trilogy that began in 2018 could have honestly just never happened and the world would not have missed a single beat. In fact, the best thing to even comes out of these films in my opinion has simply been the well-crafted John and Cody Carpenter (and Daniel Davies) composed music score, which was indeed the highlight of Ends (throwing in the Dead Kennedys’ “Halloween” during a party scene was a nice touch as well).
But you know where the music and storylines were even better? The original films. I’d much rather go back and re-watch Halloween III: Season of the Witch (my personal favorite, and yes that’s right, the one without Michael Myers) any day of the week. With that being said, keep an eye out for an upcoming 40th anniversary piece on the latter, dropping at the end of the week on Rewind It Magazine!
For the first time in its ten-year history, the massive Welcome to Rockville music festival came to the International Speedway in Daytona Beach, FL for four straight days and nights from November 11-14. And with press credentials extremely limited for the event, it did not look likely that Rewind It Magazine would be able to make it. But as luck would have it, our very own photographer Brooke Striewski managed to pull off winning four day passes from local rock station WJRR.
Each night featured an array of different bands on the stage (and to anyone that was able to make it all four days and survive, I applaud you), and having just acquired wristbands the day of the first show and having numerous prior engagements, there was no way we would be able to make much more than the headlining acts. But photo passes be damned, we were still determined to get in as much as possible, and see as many friends of the extended family also attending as possible (including Mike Jones, Josh Kelly, and Rewind It Magazine contributor Shawn McKee).
Although I’m ninety-nine percent sure the first band we saw onstage upon entering that first night on Thursday, November 11 was indeed Brass Against, we did not witness the now-infamous “peeing” incident from lead singer Sophia Urista (shame, I know). Our first “real” introduction to the music was via A Day to Remember, a band I first saw back in 2011. Can’t say I was ever a huge fan of theirs, but songs like “Mind Reader,” “Resentment,” “All Signs Point to Lauderdale,” “Brick Wall,” and “All I Want” were all decent enough live numbers.
From there it was on to catch hip hop icons Cypress Hill, who just about any middle/high school misfit in the ’90s will remember as the go-to stoner group. Along with Public Enemy’s DJ Lord in tow, the group actually started off somewhat promising with tracks like “I Ain’t Goin’ Out Like That,” “When the Shit Goes Down,” “A to the K,” and “Hand on the Pump.” But as soon as they did “Pigs” and started preaching their hypocritical anti-law enforcement rhetoric from their oh-so protected stage (From what again? That’s right, law enforcement!), they began to lose us. More stunning achievements in songwriting followed, such as “Bilingual,” “I Wanna Get High” (where a nearby fan became falsely excited, mistaking it for another, similar sounding song), “Dr. Greenthumb,” and “Hits From the Bong.” By the time they reached their biggest hit “Insane in the Brain,” we were already making our way over to the main act of the night.
Slipknot are one of those rare exception, nu metal acts that I can actually tolerate. and having previously photographed frontman Corey Taylor and guitarist Jim Root on stage with Stone Sour for another magazine at Earthday Birthday back in 2013, I was actually intrigued to finally see them behind their “other” faces. They were also our fifteen year old son’s favorite act of the entire festival, so to be able to watch them alongside him was no doubt a special moment for me. They definitely did not disappoint, coming out strong with somewhat newer track “Unsainted” before finally launching into the likes of “Before I Forget,” “The Heretic Anthem,” “Psychosocial,” “The Chapeltown Rag,” “Wait and Bleed,” “Vermilion,” “All Out Lie,” and “Duality.” At some point during the night, Taylor also took a minute to address the recent tragedy at Astroworld, forging a moment of honest solidarity between band and audience.
Slipknot headlining the first night of Welcome to Rockville on Thursday, November 11, 2021.
Night two was definitely a step up, and one to remember. By the time our crew arrived this time around, Chevelle (another band I once photographed at EDBD, but in 2012) were mid-way through their set. Although more up my son’s alley once again, hearing tracks like “The Clincher,” “Send the Pain Below,” and “The Red” took me back to another, more simple time.
Social Distortion has been a band on my list for some time now, and although I’ve had close calls of seeing them in the past, I was finally able to catch them this past Friday night. Tracks like The Rolling Stones’ “Under My Thumb,” “Ready For Love,” “California (Hustle and Flow),” “Far Side of Nowhere,” “Lude Boy,” “She’s a Knockout,” “The Way Things Were,” “Story of my Life,” “I Was Wrong,” “Ball and Chain,” “Don’t Drag Me Down,” and Johnny Cash’s “Ring of Fire” were all powerful in a live setting (although I would have liked to have heard just a little more older stuff, like maybe “Mommy’s Little Monster” at the very least). The laid back demeanor of founder and lone original member, frontman Mike Ness (now joined by former U.S. Bombs/Youth Brigade guitarist Johnny Wickersham in place of the late Dennis Danell since 2000) was a stark contrast to Cypress Hill’s set the previous night around the same time frame, and just echoed an overall coolness.
Former White Zombie frontman Rob Zombie was up next, and like Slipknot, was playing his final show of 2021. Although there’s still plenty of visuals to behold throughout his shows via videos of everything from clips of his films, to half naked go go dancers, I remembered not being all that impressed the last time I caught him live in 2006, either. Now joined by not one, but two former members of Marilyn Manson (guitarist John 5 and drummer Ginger Fish), Zombie and his crew made plenty of noise with tracks like “The Triumph of King Freak (A Crypt of Preservation and Superstition),” “Dead City Radio and the New Gods of Supertown,” “Superbeast,” “Living dead Girl,” “The Eternal Struggles of The Howling Man,” “Well, Everybody’s Fucking in a UFO,” “More Human Than Human,” “House of 1000 Corpses,” and “Thunder Kiss ’65.” A quick solo from John 5 followed before closing things out with “Dragula,” but overall, it was not much more than simply a pretty “meh” performance.
And finally, after waiting forty years (the age of both myself, and the band themselves), I was able to come full circle and complete seeing the last missing piece of the “Big Four” of thrash metal that also includes Megadeth, Anthrax, and Slayer. It was truly surreal to hear Metallica tear through “Whiplash” off of 1983’s Kill ’em All album, before going into “Ride the Lightning” from the album of the same name. More classics new and old followed, including “Harvester of Sorrow,” “Cyanide,” “The Memory Remains,” “One,” “Frantic” (yes, from 2003’s St. Anger album, which lead singer/guitarist James Hetfield even poked a bit of fun at), and “Moth Into Flame.” More classics like “No Leaf Clover,” “For Whom the Bell Tolls,” “Whiskey in the Jar,” “Fade to Black,” “Master of Puppets,” “Fight Fire with Fire,” “Fuel,” and “Seek and Destroy” followed. But I also noted how, curiously, nothing from TheBlackAlbum was performed, and I would indeed find out why soon enough (stay tuned). Although packed in like sardines in one of the largest crowds any of us have ever been in, it was truly an unforgettable experience to have together.
Having already seen the majority of bands on Saturday night’s roster – including The Offspring, Staind, Lamb of God, and Gwar – and having previously committed to the third annual Stogies and Spirits event at Henry’s Depot in Sanford, FL (where we watched local cover act Skin Deep perform instead) we wisely took a night off from Rockville and waited until Sunday to return, which was a gamble that paid off perfectly. Upon arrival on Sunday afternoon, the weather had cooled down considerably, and the all-female trio The Warning were well into their set. Not only were some pretty faces a welcomed addition after staring at nothing but dudes for days now, the girls actually rocked pretty damn hard, too…
…Yet not as hard as the mighty Anthrax. The last time I saw them back in 2010 (where I photographed them at Hard Rock Live along with Megadeth and Slayer), they were full of energy, and absolutely tore up the stage. And despite a member change since (Shadows Fall guitarist Jonathan Donais has since taken over for Volbeat’s Rob Caggiano), the band still had it. Staple tracks like “Among the Living,” “Got the Time,” “Caught in a Mosh,” “Madhouse,” “Finale,” “I am the Law,” “Anti-Social,” and “Indians” still all sounded crushing live, making Anthrax easily one of my favorite bands of not only the night, but the entire weekend as well.
Former Escape the Fate frontman Ronnie Radke’s band Falling in Reverse were next up. Although another of the many bands I photographed at the three consecutive Earthday Birthdays I covered (I believe it was 2012 this time around), the appeal has definitely worn off for me, and is once again something more appreciated by my teenager. Still, it was interesting hearing “The Drug in Me is You” again alongside newer tracks like “Believe in Me,” “Drugs,” “Just Like You,” and “Popular Monster.”
Mastodon were up next, and admittedly, we only caught a glimpse of their set due to it being time to find some grub. But we filled our bellies just in time to catch a reunited Mudvayne, who, despite their laughable costumes and makeup, did not cause anyone to lose said dinner. I can’t say I was ever a fan of Mudvayne, or vocalist Chad Gray and guitarist Greg Tribbett’s other band HellYeah, who once again I photographed at – you guessed it – Earthday Birthday! The only songs I even recognized in their set were the early 2000’s hits “Not Falling” and “World So Cold,” and after listening to Gray struggle to hit the right notes (to be fair, I understand he may have recently recovered from a case of Covid), we began making our way to the next stage.
Legendary southern rockers Lynyrd Skynyrd have somehow also managed to escape from my radar until now, but it was totally worth the wait, even with virtually no original member present at the time (sole surviving member Gary Rossington was out due to recent medical issues, leaving long time vocalist/younger brother to late original vocalist Ronnie Van Zant, Johnny, and guitarist Ricky Medlocke, who played briefly with the band in the early ’70s and has been back with them for a good twenty five years now, as close as it gets). Still, this did not stop them from bringing the house down.
Lynyrd Skynyrd performing the final night of Welcome to Rockville on Sunday, November 14, 2021.
Thin Lizzy/former Brother Cane guitarist Damon Johnson took over duties for Rossington with ease and enthusiasm, and the band opened their set admirably enough with “Workin’ For MCA.” More classics like “I Ain’t the One,” “Saturday Night Special,” “That Smell,” “Gimme Back My Bullets,” “The Needle and the Spoon,” “Simple Man,” “Gimme Three Steps,” and “Sweet Home Alabama” followed before ending with an epic, ten-plus minute rendition of “Free Bird” (all these years of hearing it yelled at concerts, and we finally heard it live). Skynyrd’s set was undoubtedly one of the highlights of the night, and the entire weekend.
Things could have easily ended there and been just fine. But instead, Metallica had to play a second show of the weekend, and it was immediately apparent the energy of Friday night’s show just wasn’t quite there this time (from both band and audience), and opening with the semi-newer track in the form of “Hardwired” was a clue of what was to come. Things did actually pick up briefly though, as the guys dove through a couple of classics (and two personal favorites of mine) “The Four Horsemen” and “Welcome Home (Sanitarium).”
But then, the unexpected happened; they started playing The Black Album (remember what I had said about Friday night’s set?), and to top it off, backwards. That’s right, the most boring album in Metallica’s “classic” era catalog, was played from “The Struggle Within,” all the way to “Enter Sandman.” I get that it’s a milestone for the band and recently just turned thirty years old, but I could have easily lived without hearing every moment from it (and judging by the crowd’s reaction, I wasn’t the only one who felt this way). The Black Album was actually the first Metallica album I ever owned, and it did little to nothing to win me over as a fan; it took going back to their earlier efforts to finally win me over.
Although the band did briefly redeem themselves afterwards by ending with “Damage Inc.” and “Creeping Death,” it still did not measure up by any means to their Friday night set. But I think it’s safe to say that all those who attended and lived through the incredible, exhausting experience that was Welcome to Rockville 2021 will surely have many a story to tell for a long, long time.
I can’t honestly say I was impressed at all with the last Halloween film released in 2018; not only was it derivative and borrowed heavily from previous entries that it supposedly ignores (it was essentially a redux of 1998’s H2O), it asked us to accept far too many idiotic and implausible situations and concepts; from giving Laurie Strode (Jamie Lee Curtis) a daughter other than Jamie Llyod from parts 4-6, to the fact we’re supposed to believe that Michael Myers is somehow remembered as a great notorious figure (sure, we know who he is as an audience, but if we’re supposed to ignore the events from all of the sequels actually happened, wouldn’t he just be some guy who killed a few people decades ago, and not as revered of a murderer?). And then there was that ridiculous plot twist with the doctor assuming the role of Michael Myers for a second (don’t even get me started on that).
For a brief moment, I was actually intrigued and lost within the onset of Halloween Kills; the flashback sequences tackling aspects from that fateful Halloween in 1978 were admittedly interesting at first. If the whole film could have just somehow stayed in that reality, maybe something could have been salvaged here. But things quickly become a joke, and the updated treatment of the late Donald Pleasence’s Dr. Loomis in these flashbacks are some of the most insulting scenes ever put on screen.
And despite having the returning Curtis paired with other series alumni from earlier films such as Charles Cyphers as Leigh Brackett, Nancy Stephens as Marion Chambers, and Kyle Richards as Lindsey Wallace, it does zero to add to this dying series. Even having Anthony Michael Hall portray the character of Tommy Doyle from the first film was as out of place as it gets, and by the time it gets to the point of him leading an angry lynch mob through a hospital, chanting “Evil dies tonight,” it felt as though I was watching a parody of the Halloween films, similar to the likes of Sharknado. There’s no drama left for any of the characters to have, just mean-spirited intentions spewing awful dialogue.
The worst is how certain elements are treated; Myers is now an even more ruthless killing machine than ever, torturing his victims mercilessly in some of the most brutal fashions imaginable (at one point he repeatedly stabs a victim with multiple knives even after killing them). Any sense of suspense is taken away in place of more blood and gore in hopes of appealing to the lowest common denominator (and yet that’s somehow supposed to be better for us to see on screen than the gratuitous nudity once so prevalent in these films that has been replaced by by mindless bloodshed?!). The reason The Shape was so menacing to begin with in the original films was not because of the quantity of outrageous kills on the screen, but the motivation behind it.
But judging by the audience reaction on opening night, small details like these are trivial matters to them at best, and do not matter to them one bit. Where there should be screams during kills, there was plenty of hootin’ and hollerin’ instead. Even the most mundane situations were enough to invoke unfounded laughter (a woman picks up a wine bottle to defend herself?! What a hilarious concept!). But it quickly became clear I’m very much alone in not accepting these trashy new dumbed down incarnations.
The flimmakers could have actually done something different with the material here. Hell, it would have been better had they even took the route of 1982’s Halloween III: Season of the Witch (the best film in the entire series in my opinion, yes, even more than the original) and introduced an entirely new concept, instead of beating this dead horse of a storyline into the ground for so long. But director David Gordon Green has taken this franchise into unforgivable territory ALMOST as atrocious as the Rob Zombie remake films. But until we stop embracing regurgitated garbage being spoon feed to us like this, they will continue churning out soulless entries as long as we continue accepting them. We deserve better than this. Yes, evil really should die, along with this entire franchise (and yet, we still have at least one more film to endure next year).
When Rob Zombie first dropped the single/video for “The Triumph of King Freak (A Crypt of Preservation and Superstition)” last year just before Halloween, I wasn’t expecting to feel like that 14-year-old kid just getting into albums like Astro Creep: 2000 all over again. But that’s exactly what happened when I finally sat down to listen to his latest solo album (his seventh overall), even if said initial single didn’t peak my interest all that much at the time.
The Lunar Injection Kool Aid Eclipse Conspiracy plays just like one of those old White Zombie records, with seventeen (usually) equally long-titled tracks that range from odd samples, instrumentals, ’70s acid trips, and menacing metal riffs. One thing’s for certain, there’s definitely no shortage of eclectic sounds to be found from start to finish.
Tracks like “The Ballad of Sleazy Rider,” “The Eternal Struggles of the Howling Man,” and “The Satanic Rites of Blacula” are all straight-forward, disco rock hybrids, while “Get Loose,” “Boom-Boom-Boom,” and “Shake Your Ass and Smoke Your Grass” are near tailored made stripper tunes. But the true highlight comes in the form of the doom-y single “Crow Killer Blues;” not only does it feature an appropriately bleak music video, it also contains some of the best work from (former Marilyn Manson) guitarist John 5 to boot.
There’s no doubt that Rob Zombie’s warped world is not for everyone. But even the most casual of listeners may be able to appreciate what he’s put together here, which is easily some of his best work in years.
By all accounts, actress Dee Wallace should need little to no introduction. In the world of horror films, she’s regarded as one of all-time top scream queens, appearing in such classics as The Howling (1981), Cujo (1983), and Critters (1986). But of her nearly two-hundred acting credits, she will perhaps forever best be known for her role in the 1982 Steven Speilberg blockbuster E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial. Last week, I had the chance to speak with Dee over the phone from her California home, where I was honored to ask her about many of said previous films, as well as her more recent, inspiring work in the self-help field.
And I was lucky enough to catch her just at the right time; at the very start of our conversation, Wallace informs me with glee; “I’m heading out to do a film, so you’re my very last, good little thing I get to do before I hop on a plane!” I also wanted Dee to know how much I had learned about her prior to our interview while doing background research, to which she delightfully chuckled before proclaiming, “That’s funny, everybody says that! Well thank you for doing your research!”
One of the first things I wanted to know was what made Wallace decide to step into the world of motivational speaking. She tells me; “Well, when you’re called, you have to answer that call! That’s the best way I can put it. Really when I look back on my entire life, it’s all lead up to this. I used to get messages when I was a little girl – which a lot of kids do. Then later in life when I met Christopher (Stone, Dee’s late husband), he and I got involved in a philosophy called conceptology, and we studied that for a couple of years. Cut to later in life; when he died, I basically dropped to my knees and said, ‘I don’t want to be a victim or angry.’ And the first message I got literally within seconds was to ‘use the light within you to heal yourself.'”
She continues; “So I’ve kind of been expanding on that ever since. I had the largest acting studio in LA at the time, and I would start getting downloads about stuff, and they were always right-on. So then families began wanting to work with me once they saw my students lives’ were changing, and now here I am 30 years later with clients all over the world. I’m quite an oxymoron, actually; half my life I do horror films, the other half I try to teach people how to deal with fear (laughs)! But it’s pretty empowering work, I can tell you that. It’s definitely changed my life!” Dee also hosts a worldwide radio call-in show discussing many of these subjects, which airs online every Sunday at 9am PST.
By now I felt like it was as good a time as any to finally segue into her film career, and I wanted to know if the horror genre was something Wallace had pursued personally, or if it had more or less ‘found’ her. She tells me; “It definitely found me! That genre is one of the easier ones to get started in when you’re beginning your acting career. Ironically, the first film I ever did was a religious one called Allthe King’s Men – and then I booked The Hills Have Eyes – which again, it sort of explains the dichotomy of Dee, here! (laughs). But I love doing emotional work, and the horror genre gives you the opportunity to do that better than many others. It found me, and then I found out that I loved it!”
I was curious what it was like stepping back into the Critters film series last year when Dee appeared in the fifth entry, Critters Attack! (her first time returning since the 1986 original). She informs me; “It was a lot of fun. My first question for them was ‘are you doing the Critters CGI?,’ because if they were I wouldn’t have done it, and I think the fans would have been disappointed. But I read the script and met with the director, and I got to go to Cape Town, South Africa, so how bad could it be?!” (Laughs). I was also curious if Dee had kept up much with the various other sequels in the series, as well as the other long-standing horror franchise she had kicked off the original with (The Howling). She says; “Yeah, I was kind of like, been there, done that (laughs). Especially with The Howling series, they just had a different quality that didn’t really fit with who I am.”
I also wondered if it was odd for her at all to step into the role of a villain for the 1996 film The Frighteners. She says; “Oh God, I had so much fun doing that! I love to explore all of the different sides of me, and the psyche, and I just loved that arc of going from the little victim, to becoming the killer towards the end!”
Dee has also done a number of films with director Rob Zombie (who, coincidentally, I had also interviewed when I first got into journalism), and I always wondered how that relationship had originally developed. She explains; Well, “Rob loves to work with older, established, actors. He came after me for Halloween, and then he wrote the part of Sonny for me in Lords of Salem. And more recently he wanted to know if I would do this tough gal-type for 3 From Hell. He just always brings me interesting things, and doesn’t lock me into the same cubby holes a lot of people want to put me in.”
Knowing by now Wallace has probably been asked every question under the sun about her legendary role in E.T., I wanted to ask her something that perhaps she hadn’t heard before. So, I simply inquired what it was like to re-visit such a classic film all these years later. She tells me honestly; “I still cry, I still laugh. As we all know it’s just a magical movie, and has become a part of our consciousness. I never get tired of it, or talking about it – and I can’t say that about all of my movies (laughs). It opens hearts and reminds people of what’s really important, and we just need a lot more of that these days.”
And lastly, with Halloween just around the corner, I wanted to know if Dee considered E.T. a ‘Halloween’ movie. She replied; “It’s an everyday movie! It crosses all of the years, and all of the holidays, no matter what time of year it is!” Oh, and as far as that movie Dee was setting off to film? She leaves us with a cliffhanger; “I wish I could tell you what it is, but I can say it’s part of a franchise that hasn’t been visited in awhile, and I think fans are going to be very excited!” I can however say to check out the short film Stay Home, which Dee produced during the quarantine (check it out on BloodyDisgusting‘s website today!).
